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		<title>By: Teaching College Math &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Wolfram&#124;Alpha: Recalculating Teaching &#38; Learning</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teaching College Math &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Wolfram&#124;Alpha: Recalculating Teaching &#38; Learning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 15:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ross Isenegger</title>
		<link>http://teachingcollegemath.com/2009/06/shaking-up-math-education/comment-page-1/#comment-747</link>
		<dc:creator>Ross Isenegger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My W&#124;A fun this week was entering terms:

Ross Mandy Neil

and 

English German

- just chock full of graphs, percentages, potential elementary math questions

Nice to see you in the news!

R</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My W|A fun this week was entering terms:</p>
<p>Ross Mandy Neil</p>
<p>and </p>
<p>English German</p>
<p>- just chock full of graphs, percentages, potential elementary math questions</p>
<p>Nice to see you in the news!</p>
<p>R</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Horne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Horne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 01:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few notes in playing with WA so I can be ready this fall for my students... 

* Not every problem has the &quot;show steps&quot; option available.  

* When determining the equation of a line from a pair of points, it lists general form and slope-intercept form, but it does not list point-slope form, which I often prefer to use.  

* It is also a bit picky in how queries are stated by the user.  One of Carl Bialik&#039;s examples of WA failing was actually a failure of how to properly express a constrained domain in the query.  He gave &quot;Maximize -x^3+4x^2 on the interval between -1 and 5&quot; as an example that failed.  Using &quot;Maximize -x^3+4x^2  from x= -1 to 5&quot; provides the correct results, albeit without the steps used to determine the results.

Long and the short of it... students will use WA. It is up to us as instructors to realize this and realize the limitations of WA.  If we realize the limitations, we can see if they are taking shortcuts. If we want the students to understand the underlying content and principles then we just have to question them about those, but more importantly, we have to TEACH them the underlying principles and content.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few notes in playing with WA so I can be ready this fall for my students&#8230; </p>
<p>* Not every problem has the &#8220;show steps&#8221; option available.  </p>
<p>* When determining the equation of a line from a pair of points, it lists general form and slope-intercept form, but it does not list point-slope form, which I often prefer to use.  </p>
<p>* It is also a bit picky in how queries are stated by the user.  One of Carl Bialik&#8217;s examples of WA failing was actually a failure of how to properly express a constrained domain in the query.  He gave &#8220;Maximize -x^3+4x^2 on the interval between -1 and 5&#8243; as an example that failed.  Using &#8220;Maximize -x^3+4x^2  from x= -1 to 5&#8243; provides the correct results, albeit without the steps used to determine the results.</p>
<p>Long and the short of it&#8230; students will use WA. It is up to us as instructors to realize this and realize the limitations of WA.  If we realize the limitations, we can see if they are taking shortcuts. If we want the students to understand the underlying content and principles then we just have to question them about those, but more importantly, we have to TEACH them the underlying principles and content.</p>
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